Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Great Expectations

Thus far in the novel the character Pip has gone through many changes, and has come to some new revelations about himself and the world he lives. Using specific evidence from the text, state at least one piece of knowledge that Pip gains about himself, or the world around him.

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43 comments:

Unknown said...

Pip’s revelation is that his affection shouldn’t be focused on becoming a gentleman and attempting to woo Estella but he should be at home where he belongs with his best friend Joe. This acknowledgement comes toward the end of part two of Pip’s development in Great Expectations. “But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe (774).” This recognition is also a crucial part of Pip’s development.

Ayumi Yoshida said...

One of the revelations which Pip finds is his social class. "But I wish you hadn't taught me to call knaves as card jacks, and I wish my boots weren't so thick nor my hands so coarse.(694)" Pip never realized his seedy class until he met Ms Havisham and Estella. The insults from Estella makes Pip realize and made him lose pride in the social class he was living in.This also motivates Pip to become a gentleman and forget his family.

Helen Dawit said...

Pip sees himself as in somewhere in the middle of the higher and lower classes. This is because he doesn’t have as much money as the higher class people that he sees everyday, but also isn’t poor because of the convict giving him money to live off of to stay in contact with the higher class. “attend if you please. You have been drawing pretty freely here; your name occurs pretty often in Wemmick’s cashbook; but you are in debt, of course?” “I am afraid I must say yes sir.” (pg. 760) This shows that Pip knows his level class in society, due to his financial perspective. But is ashamed to reveal it because he doesn’t want to be noticed as a lower class person, even though that is where he came from.

Derek R said...

Pip is now recalling all the knowledge of what he had left behind in his small home town. This includes Mr. Joe who now with Ms. Joe's death is basically all alone in the world. Also he has left it only to have his dreams fulfilled with money that may have been wrongfully earned through crime by the convict he met out on the marshes. He shows this when he says "But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe". This doubt in his intentions also becomes oblivious when the convict tells Pip "Yes, Pip dear boy, I've made a gentleman out of you! It's me wot done it!". This destroys Pip in many ways for now he is not as proud of all he has gain but instead ashamed of his funding.

Erik W. said...

Pip has come to realize that he is alone in his shifting state of rich and poor. He has no family because all the family he knew, he has left behind in the poor area of his birth.
He has also lost the graces of his rich friends because he still associates with poor people and is not quite a gentleman. Pip has nobody like himself, either someone is on one side or the other, but he is in between. Either they are in black or white, but Pip is merely a shade of grey. “Not with pleasure, though I was bound to him by so many ties; no, with considerable disturbance and mortification.” Pip spurns the closest thing he has to a father, to keep the image he has built for himself. But at the same time, he hates the thing he has become, because he has left all he knew for it.

Diwesh Poudyal said...

Ever since Pip gained knowledge of wealth and higher class, his goal has been to be on the same platform as Estella and attain her as his love. After meeting his convict and gaining knowledge that Estella was actually not for him, he regrets setting a reckless goal and abandoning his good past with trying to achieve the respect and love of someone that could never show such emotions. "Miss Havisham's intentions toward me, all a mere dream; Estella not designed for me; I only suffered in Satis House as a convenience, a sting for the greedy relations, a model with a mechanical heart to practice on when no other practice was at hand"(774).

Emma Cornell said...

Pip has come to the revelation that he has replaced family and love for money and a higher class. He abandoned Joe and Biddy to achieve his dreams of rising to the upper class. Later though when its too late to turn back Pip realizes that he made a mistake in the choices hes made. He realized that if he had stayed at the forge he would be living a content, happy life, with minimal regrets. Whereas now he is living a life full of many regrets and had finally realized that money does not buy wealth. "There was a gay fiction among us that we were constantly enjoying ourselves and a skeleton truth that we never did" (pg 757)

Unknown said...

Pip has had quite an adventure since the beginning of Great Expectations (by Charles Dickens). He moves to London, meets some interesting people with even more interesting names and is basically livin’ the good life. Except for the fact that he is actually in extreme debt. Anyway, he learns that his old life with the Joes was quite unsatisfactory to his new friends. In Pips view, living a quiet life as a black smith’s apprentice, eventually an actual blacksmith, and married to Biddy just will not cut it. He would much rather go after Estella, a girl much “thicker” and harder to get then Biddy. Pip now wants to be, or pretend to be, rich like his new London friends. Money is the topic of most of their congregations, mainly how to manage it. “Pitch your money into Thames and you know the end of it. Serve a friend with it, and you know the end of it too” (762).

ChennyBritt said...

Pip was brought up with no real companion, but has finally found one in Herbert Pocket. He has realized that having a true friend in the world doesn’t mean to just have good times with them, but to sacrifice for them as well. “Day by day as his hopes grew stronger and his face brighter, he must have thought me a more and more affectionate friend, for I had the greatest difficulty in restraining my tears of triumph when I saw him so happy.” (764). This thought from Pip shows his heart opening up for his best friend Herbert. Pip sacrifices his own money for Herbert and is happy to see Herbert happy. That shows that Pip is starting to truly understand the meaning of friendship and is willing to give up for them.

Unknown said...

Pip's relevation is that it's your good friends who matter, not the money. By the end of the Second Stage of his Expectations, he has realized where the money is coming from. Pip then feels like he should be paying more attention to joe. He thinks "But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe" (774.) Pip had also talked to Biddy after Mrs. Joe's funeral, and said that he was going to stay with him while he deals with it. He has finally realized how much he misses seeing Joe, and leading a simpler life without the worries of money, and debt. Pip knows that if he continues to live in the upper class, money will get the better of him. This ties back to the quote "Make money your God, and it will plague you like the devil." He also knows that living in the upper clss is demanding because you get judged by someone everyday, and have to focus hard on people's opinion of you.

-Natalia Duranceau

Laura said...

Pip realizes that Estella will only cause him pain, yet he loves her anyways, therefore realizing he is attached to the wrong things in life. From the moment Pip met Estella he was completely preoccupied with her. He could not leave her alone. She treated him poorly, she was rude to him and very proud, yet he wanted badly, mostly because he could not have her, and partially because of her beauty and elegant nature. He loves Estella for all the wrong reasons; he is attached to the wrong things. "I have never left off adoring her. And she has come back a most beautiful and most elegant creature. And I saw her yesterday. And if I adored her before I now doubly adore her." He realizes this when he learns that his benefactor is not in fact Miss Havisham but his convict, meaning that there were no plans for him and Estella to be together. He comes to the conclusion that he pushed all the love out of his life to become what Estella would want, to gain her love, but there was no love to be gained. Pip realized his unnatural obsession has made him alone, realizing that Estella could only cause him pain, not happiness, nor give him love.
Money cannot buy happiness. Pip realizes this through his desperate struggle to gain Estella's love. He tried to become and elevate his social class, yet no matter how rich or highly regarded he was he could not win Estella's heart. As started by Estella, "You must know that I have no heart." She is a cruel, cold, heartless being that takes pleasure in other's misery. Pip knows that this is the way she is, the way she was raised to be, and the way she will always be, but he only gained this knowledge after he became a gentleman. When Pip became a gentleman he became part of Estella's class, and therefore closer to her. He thought this change would impress her and bring her to love him, but id did not, she is a wretched loveless creature. Money did not buy Pip happiness, in fact it took away all the happiness he ever had and took all the love out of his life.


Sorry there are no citations I did not bring my book home with me, I'll add them tomorrow. -Laura

Unknown said...

One of Pip’s greatest desires in life as a young man was to move up in society and become a member of the upper class. Pip was ashamed of his life in the forge, and then moved to London to start a new life and attempted to reach his desired goal. Throughout the entire process Pip experienced some major changes within himself. He realizes that leaving his family and loved ones for a new life of money and wealth was wrong. "But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe"(774). Pip learns that he deserted Joe and begins to recognize the mistakes that he made. He also begins to realize what life that he chose to neglect and left behind at the forge could have been.

Danielle Gervais said...

The dynamic character of Pip finds a plethera of revelations. One of them is how Pip realizes you will never find what you desire unless you stride beyond what is present. You have to set goals and reach above and beyond your expecatations. He realizes if he doesn't have higher standards in society he will never impel forward. He realizes if he ddoesn't push himself then he will never gain Estella's love, or money. This is Pip's motive for his actions and a major part of his development.

hannah said...

One of the most important things that Pip realizes is that Estella does not favor him over the other men who are interested in her. Until the visit from the convict, Pip had thought that Estella only deceived the other men, but had real feelings for him. He thought that Miss Havisham was his benefactress and that her motives were to have Pip rise in social status so that he could be suitable for Estella. Upon the convict's visit, he realizes that this is not the case. "Miss Havisham's intentions toward me, all a mere dream; Estella not designed for me..." (774) this disappointing revelation could be one of the most important revelations that Pip makes in the novel.

claremorris said...

One of Pip's revelations is that you should expect the unexpected. This is shown twice, first when Pip thinks he will always be in the lower class forever and Mr. Jaggers comes along and takes him to London to jump up to the upper class. The second time this is shown is when the convict tells Pip out of the blue that he is his supporter/ guardian. “Yes, Pip, dear boy, I've made a gentleman on you! It's me wot has done it! I swore that time; sure as ever I earned a guniea, that guinea should go to you. I swore arterwards, such as ever spec'lated and got rich, you, you should get rich. This is extremely important because it might foreshadow future events.

Unknown said...

Pip starts to realize and learn many new things as the novel progresses. At first he has the realization that is bad to be common but as the story moves along he starts having a revelation. His new found epiphany is that instead of being out seeking his fortunes as a gentlemen or trying to woo Estella unsuccessfully he should be at home where he belongs with his best and true friend Joe. During part 2 of the novel he says, "But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe" (774)

Unknown said...

Pip's revalation is that he does not have his priorities in the right order. He puts first, his craving to be a gentlemen and to make Estella like him. The priority that should be first is that he should go back to the forge, and show the people who really care about him, Joe, Mrs. Joe, and Biddy, how much they mean to him. "But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe"(774). This shows that even though Pip feels guilty for leaving Joe, he will not leave the life he lives in London to go back to the forge and do what is truly right.

hunter said...

Pip realizes the power that people obtain when they have more money then others. "My first decided experience of the stupendous power of money was that it had morally laid upon his back Trabb's boy" this shows that even the rudest of people must bow before people with money because in their society they were truly higher. In a society like this poor people believed they had to suck up to people with more money because no one wanted to be against somebody with more power then them. Pip likes the feeling of this until he realizes it has turned him away from someone who truly loves him, Joe.

Unknown said...

In the novel Great Expectations, by Charles Dickens, Pip learn's through his experiences that things are not always what they seem to be. In chapter 23, Trabb's boy plays a trick on Pip. "Suddenly the knees of Trabb's boy smote together, his hair up rose, his cap fell off, he staggered out into the road, and crying to the populace." "As I passed him, his teeth loudly chattered in his head, and with every mark of extreme humiliation, he prostrated himself in the dust."(751) Then Pip reacts by saying, "This was a hard thing to bear, but this was nothing." (751) The quotes show how the experiences in Pips life can shape his personality and how he reacts to events.

- Dylan Boyle

Ellen D said...

Pip has learned that you don't have to be rich to be happy with your life. "His manner of bearing his poverty,too,exactly corresponded to his manner of bearing that defeat" (737). He learned from Herbert that even if you are not rich you can still be successful and happy with your life. Also, Pip will know learn that he too can live his life that.

ED

Unknown said...

Pip has indeed gone through many changes and has experienced new revelations about himself and the world he lives in. Through all his experiences that have altered himself as a human being, Pip has not been the same as before physically and mentally. He has realized now that the reason for, if not all, most changes are due to when he first met his convict. After all these years, it has taken Pip a second to recognize the man who changed his life though he couldn't even remember a single aspect about him. "Even yet I could not recall a single feature, but I knew him! If the wind and the rain had driven away the intervening years, had swept us to the churchyard where we first stood face to face on such different levels, I could not have known my convict more distinctly than I know him now, as he sat in the chair before the fire" (770).

Unknown said...

Thus far in Great Expectations, the character Pip has undergone many changes in self identity and personal perception of the world around him. It becomes evident that the main conclusion Pip's experiences lead him to is that people congregate with those of the same social class regardless of the variables of love and hate. Even true emotions such as these are powerless against the financial forces of society. For example, Pip acknowledges that even though he would be miserable with Estella but happy with Joe, he will still travel the path to Estella facilitated by his social status. Pip realizes the reality of these social-financial divisions when he leaves his old home for the second time. " If they disclosed to me... that I should not come back, and that Biddy was quite right, all I can say is - they were quite right too" (760).

Unknown said...

Pip has gone through a lot of revelations through this novel. He has seen two different social classes and one revelation is picking which social class he wants to live in and deal with all the consequences within his choice. he chooses the rich side because he has many friends in this social class and because of this he forgets about his old life and doesn't care for his old life + social class
-tk

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Unknown said...

Pip was easy going, and happy with his life until he met Estella, who made him see how low he was. from then, he becomes embarrassed of his poor status, and he becomes more distant from his loved ones. When he gets the inheritance, he becomes almost completely independent, and he leaves for London to live on his own. "It was the first time a grave had opened in my road of life, and the figure of my sister in her chair by the kitchen fire haunted me night and day." (758). Pip's thought shows that he regrets becoming so distant from his loved ones, and he also realizes the wrong path that he took when he left his weak sister without his support, and how he couldn't be there for her.

Katelyn said...

One of Pip's revelations is that he realizes that the social classes don't always separate friendship. He learns that you can be friends with people in other social classes. ""Come!" said Mr. Jaggers. "I'll be plain with you, my friend Pip.""(761). Here and a few other places Pip can tell and he learned that money doesn’t have to separate friendships. He can be friends with someone in another social class or that has more or less money then he does.
~KC~

Anonymous said...

Throughout the novel Great Expectations, by Charles Dickens, Pip, the protagonist, has been through many changes and revelations, but one of the most important revelations is that he had made the wrong choices for the wrong reasons. Firstly, Pip falls in "love" with Estella because she is beautiful, but recently he has come to realize that he does not truly love her, he is only infatuated with her. "I never had one hour's happiness in her society, and yet my mind all around the four-and-twenty hours was harping on the happiness of having her with me unto death"(764). Secondly, Pip now knows that the choice to become a gentleman simply so he could move up in his social class and get more money, was definitely a bad choice and now regrets that fact he did it. "I should have been happier and better if I had never seen Miss Havisham's face"(756). Although Pip has realized that these two things are destroying his life, he has made no move to stop them.

Ricky said...

“Handel” or Pip is a dramatic character that changes as a result of an experience. Pip has changed a lot throughout the novel Great Expectations, by Charles Dickens, but one big change is that he is more aware of his surrounding and how they affect him and others. “As I had grown accustomed to my expectations, I had insensibly begun to notice their effect upon myself and those around me” (756). One of his big observations that he noticed was what his sister really meant to him, after her death. In the beginning of the story Pip portrays his sister as a horrible and abusive human being. But as Pip leaves his old life, to start a new, he forgets about his old relations and only when they were gone he felt regret and sorrow. “ It was the first time I grave had opened in my road of life, and the figure of my sister in her chair by the kitchen fire haunted me night and day”(758). The character of Pip has shaped his character through many experiences and decision and deserves the name of dramatic character.

- HS

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haley said...

Once a young, naieve, lieing, boy is now a smart buisiness man who has gone through many changes and revalations. Pip in "Great Expectations" by Charles Dickens has changed by no longer believing that he is just a hopless boy. He learned that he was born to achieve and that he needs to learn to believe in himself, his family, and the society he lives in. "The communication I have got to make is that he has Great Expectations" (719). Mr. Jaggers expresses his thoughts to Pip and this is when Pip learns that he has great expectations! He changes his thoughts and mood toward life.

-Haley C.

Unknown said...

As the book progresses and Pip matures, he begins to realize that in his society people judge others based on their social class. His behavior reflects this, he begins to be more concerned with how others view him. "I settled that I must go to the Blue Boar"(746). Pip decides to stay at an inn rather than with his family because he is afraid that if he does not people will think he can not afford it. However at the beginning of the book Pip had no such concerns.
Sam R.

Unknown said...

Pip realizes that all he wants is to be back home with Joe. He gets this revelation when the convict tells him that he was the one who organized everything. Pip realizes that he is still the same class that he was in before and deeply regrets leaving the forge. “But the sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of what I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe.”(774) This knowledge makes him appreciate what he had before finding out the truth. He now knows that he is still the same status that he was at the forge and that he had a better family there. He realizes that money and status are less important than family and things that will actually stick around forever.

Megan said...

Pip has developed much from the beginning of the novel. In his journey to manhood, he makes many realizations in the world around him, and within himself too. One of the biggest realizations that he made was the sad truth that Estella and him may never be together. And that his hopes of moving up a social class can never be fully achieved because he will still be thought of who he was. “Miss Havisham’s intensions toward me, all a mere dream; Estella was not designed for me; I only suffered at Statis House as a convenience, a sting for the greedy relations, a model with a mechanical heart to practice on when no other practice was at hand.” (774)

Unknown said...

The on ething Pip wants most in his life is to become a wealthy person. Pip realizes that as he is in the lower class, that he isn't respected as much as people in the higher classes. This was Pip's desire to be part of the higher class and to be a gentleman. "You consider it, undoubtedly, a handsome sum of money, Pip, is your own. It is a present to you on this day, in earnest of your expectations."(761) This quote is an example of joy for Pip, on the day he came of age to receive money and be a wealthier person and moving up a little in his class. One thing that also changed Pip, was Miss Havisham and Estella. These two ladies were very important in Pip's life in a different way than most of the other characters. Estella was influenced by Miss Havisham to make fun of Pip, tease him, and ruin his life in a way. Miss Havisham only wanted this because she didn't get her happy ending, and she doesn't want others too either. "I thought I overheard Miss Havisham answer-only it seemed so unlikely-"Well?You can break his heart."(690)

~ap

Shayna Linov said...

Pip has come to realize the true meaning of Estella. He knows of Miss Havisham’s background and has discovered the reason she developed Estella in the way she did. He was told of her pervious relationship, and what how its failure destroyed her, and with that information he was able to figure out the purpose of her miserable creation – Estella. It was nothing personal to Pip, he was the easy target for Miss Havisham’s remorse and fury. While seeing that he and Estella were set up to be together, he detected the part where he was just another common boy that Miss Havisham could use against the whole male race. He said, “I saw in this that Estella was set to wreak Miss Havisham’s revenge on men. I too was tormented even while the prize was meant for me” (765). This discovery has helped Pip’s revelation in that even though he still falls for Estella’s “charm”, he is aware of the trick and is wiser in this way.

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Jacob said...

Pip realizes that he has abandoned his family and home life in the pursuit of wealth and status. Until he achieved more wealth he always thought it would greatly improve his life. Now that he has it he realizes it is no replacement for love and friendship. "But sharpest and deepest pain of all-it was for the convict, guilty of I knew not what crimes, that I had deserted Joe." (774)

Unknown said...

In Charles Dickens' "Great Expectations", the central character Pip undergoes a change in his mind set. During his lifetime, Pip experiences different events that change the course of his life. Early in the novel prior to leaving the only home he knows, he expresses his unhappiness about his life at that time. "When I got into my little room, I sat down and took a long look at it, as a mean little room that I should soon be parted from and raised above forever." (721) Pip is unhappy and looking forward to the positive change that he believes will happen. After learning that Estella doesn't really want him and that Miss Havisham isn't his benefactor; he is shocked to discover that the one person he truly fears, the "convict" is actually his true benefactor. This turns Pip's world on its head. "Oh, that he had never come! That he had left me at the forge - far from contented, yet, by comparison, happy!" (774) After this revelation, Pip feels that his earlier life, although simple and harsh may have been better after all.

Unknown said...

In the novel, "Great Expectations", the main character, Pip, has experienced a numerous of changes. Pip realizes that some of these changes have put many people in misery, not to mention that he left his closest and most loving friend, Joe, back in the forge all alone. Pip did all of this to try and advance his status in society. "When I woke up in the night I used to think, with a weariness in my spirits, that I should have never seen Miss. Havisham's face, and had risen to manhood content to be partners with Joe in the honest old forge" (756). Joe starts to feel regretful about some of the decisions he has made and realizes that most of this choices where only to benefit himself, not thinking about any one else in his life.
-HANNAH

Unknown said...

Pip has come to realize that he does not need to be happy, but only make the people around him happy. Such as Biddy and Joe, " Don't tell him, Joe, that I was thankless; don't tell him, Biddy, that I was ungenerous and unjust; only tell him that I honored you both..." (pg.827).

Helen Dawit said...

If a person has great expectations in life does it always turn out how they want or even imagined how it would turn out to be?

Does Pip eventually understand how his life could have been better if didn’t go to London to learn how to be a gentleman?

Danielle Gervais said...

Do you think Pip truelly regrets leaving the Forge to go to London and not meeting Herbert? Would he do it again if he had the chance?

"Oh, Joe, you break my heart! Look angry at me, Joe. Strike me, Joe. Tell me of my ingratitude. Don't be so good to me!"(822)